Reply to Farid on the Martyrdom of Syeda Fatima Zehra and Historical Context

 Replying to https://youtu.be/1SIIa0U0f5U

The alleged martyrdom of Syeda Fatima Zehra. according to the speaker "Farid," it never happened. 

He loves Islamic history and its authenticity because the is well documented, the variety and volume are significant. Many times one can pick out words from the narrations and declare whether fabrication or not. According to him, Islamic history = Sunni history. Sunni history has the most details. Authors of the early books of Tareekh and Seerah were Sunni 

1- One should ask why aren't there Shia narrations and why so much from the Sunnah sources?  

The oppressive rulers (so-called) caliphs throughout history have been anti-AhlulBait AS. Shias are just those who follow the teachings of Ahlul-Bait AS. The rights of Ali and Fatima AS was usurped. Muawiya fought Ali AS and then poisoned  Hasan AS. Yazeed fought and martyred Hussain AS. All the progeny of the Prophet was killed by people like Hajaj bin Yusuf and the key leaders of the Ahlul Bait were kept under house arrest and poisoned by Muslims rulers including Banu Ummay and Banu Abbas. All the history was written by the people sponsored by the haters of Ahlul Bait AS. How do we know they were haters, because they imprisoned and killed the leaders of Ahlul Bait As. What is the best way to eradicate or confuse the future generations, by adding so much details in the history about certain events - work that can only be sponsored by the governments so that people of the future always deny the events and history. It is through logic, you can discern right from wrong, not by the share volume of the narrations or traditions because of the nature of the governments who were anti-Ahlul Bait AS, and who wanted to delete the memory of Ahlel-Bait AS after killing them physically, so they resorted to manipulation of the history through Sunni narrations narrated by Sunnah scholars (as mentioned by Farid). 

If someone says that rulers were not anti-Ahlul Bait, why did the kill the progeny of Fatima Zehra? If all of this is a fabrication, why do we see Wahabi Sunnis kill Shias e.g. Talib killing shias in Afghanistan, ISIS killing Shias in Syria and Iraq, Saudi government killing Shias, UAE deporting Shias, Sunni Wahabi under the banner of Sipha-e-Sahaba and Lashkar Jhangvi killing Shias in Pakistan, and so on. 

Sadam before this killed Shias, the clan of Saud destroyed the holy shrines of Al-Baqi 100 years ago, Auragzeb in India before that killed Shias, Salahuddin before that killed Shias, even Turkish caliphate killed Shias at certain times, Banu Abbas and Abbasid caliphate killed Banu Fatima and the Shias, they destroyed the holy shrines, Hajaj Bin Yusuf killed Sadaat (Banu Fatimah) under Banu Umayyah, Muawiya killed the Shias in the form of blessed companions of the PRophet who were with Ali AS like Mesam Tammar, Hujr Bin Adi

 

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2. The second thing that Farid mentions is that this narrative that Omar killed Fatima Zehra isn't only false in Sunni history but also is false in Shii history.

So there is a narrative in Sunni history that this happened. Now, one can try to refute the narratives as weak but the fact is that it does exist. As for Shii history, it exists and is considered true. Sunnis can ignore that Shias added this narrative and it is weak, but why does it even exist in Sunnah history? If this was a small event, it could have been clouded in the history books or eliminated from the Sunnah books. 

But the presence of this event raises the question, why was it even left in the books. Know that the hadiths books were compiled at least 100 years after this event. The only book that Shias believe is the original hadith book as written during the time of the Khulufa after the death of the Prophet, is the book of Sulaim Bin Qais. Few questions to raise as the discussion goes into the weakness of hadiths. Before I ask the questions, keep in mind that in today's criminal probes the first few questions asked are:

1. Who would benefit the most in the situation?
2. Which character is the most repeated through the chain of events before and after the event in question:

Here is a list of questions that one should ask before saying whether the event is a fabrication or not:

1. We know that Sunnah history is very detailed and it is supported by rulers who were not pro-Shia. So why was this weak, disputed, and false event even kept in the books? The only reason could be there were some historians with a conscience who could not just obfuscate the history and it had significant repetition that they had to include it or how would then answer Allah and the Prophet on the of Judgement.

Events that led up to this incident:

• Who said no to the Prophet when he asked for something to write? Umer (Hadith Qirtas)
• Who was the first person to Abu Bakr as the Khalifa at Saqeefa even when the Prophet's body wasn't buried? It was Umer (Tareekh Tabri and others)
• What was the average age of people of Arab at that time? ~60
• How old was Abu Bakr? 60 (close to the end of his life). How old was Umer? ~48 (average 10-15 years of life left)
• How old was Ali at that time? 33 (~30 years of life left). If Ali had become caliph, Umer would not have become caliph)

Incident

• Who ahd an altercation with Seyda Fatima Zehra? Umer
• Why is only Umer mentioned in all the Shia and Sunnah books as the person involved in this incident? There were 1000s of other Sahaba, why only Umer is mentioned? 
• Who argued against Fiddak and asked Abu Bakr to stop? Umer (to inflict financial restrictions)

Events after this Incident

• With whom Syeda Fatima angry? Abu Bakr and Umer
• Who did not attend the funeral of the Lady of Heaven? Most Muslims including Abu Bakr and Umer
• Who became the Caliph after Abu Bakr? Umar

Few other questions:

• How come Abu Bakr's nomination to Khalifat was accepted and while Prophet's nomination in front of all at Ghadeer was dis-regarded?
• Why did Abu Bakr nominate Umer while Umer made a shura? Was Umer's nomination against the Sunnah? And why only Umer?

Isn't it a coincidence that the main character behind all the afflictions to the Prophet and the Ahlul Bait AS in Umer and is also the main beneficiary of all of these things?